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    New Brunner FFB-G Products

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    Steve - G-LOC Media

    Steve | G-LOC MEDIA

    Flight simulation enthusiast and YouTuber

    The Brunner FFB-G Joystick at $460 and Brunner FFB-G Rudders at $799 represent the most accessible Brunner force feedback products ever made, with price cuts of over $1,200 and $1,100 respectively compared to their full-size siblings - and the build quality and feel are genuinely impressive rather than feeling like a budget step down. Both products are USB only and designed to run on the new SimUX software which isn't publicly available yet, meaning this is a first look rather than a full review and the experience here is the floor not the ceiling.

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    Pros

    • $460 makes Brunner force feedback accessible for the first time
    • Smoothness on the stick and effect delivery is on another level compared to the Moza AB6
    • Build quality and fit and finish of both products exceeds what the price suggests
    • Most compact Brunner base ever made, a proper desktop unit
    • Power off switch finally included on both
    • Thrustmaster compatible mounting pattern on the stick works with existing rigs
    • Base accepts Moza, Thrustmaster and Virpil sticks

    Cons

    • Force output at 2.2 Newton metres is a meaningful reduction from the CLS-E Mark II
    • Pitch and roll travel from the Joystick reduced from 20.5 degrees to 16 degrees
    • USB only, no RJ connector
    • No stick included in the stick base, factor this into the total cost
    • The stick base ships with no mounting solution, sort this out before it arrives
    • Not well suited to DCS or warbird flying
    • SimUX software not publicly available yet

    Brunner FFB-G Joystick and Brunner FFB-G Rudders: First Look at Brunner's Most Accessible Force Feedback Yet

    Brunner has just made their force feedback products significantly more accessible and I don't mean just a little bit more affordable. The new Brunner FFB-G Joystick base has been cut by over $1,200 compared to the existing CLS-E Mark II. If you've been sitting on the sidelines waiting for a Brunner you could actually justify buying, this might be the video you've been waiting for.

    But before you get excited and pre-order, there's something critical you need to understand upfront. This is not a full review. Everything you're about to read has been tested on the older CLS2Sim software because the new SimUX software these products are designed to run on isn't publicly available yet. Consider this the floor of what these products are capable of - definitely not the ceiling. Full separate reviews of both the Brunner FFB-G Joystick and Brunner FFB-G Rudders are coming the moment the final software is in hand and I've had some time with it.

    What Brunner Has Launched

    Three things simultaneously. The Brunner FFB-G Joystick base, the Brunner FFB-G Rudder Pedals, and a brand new software platform called SimUX. The joystick and rudders are designed to run on SimUX - and that software distinction matters more than you might think, which we'll get to shortly.

    Brunner FFB-G Joystick — Price and What You're Trading

    The Brunner FFB-G Joystick comes in at $460. The existing high-end Brunner base, the CLS-E Mark II, sits at $1,645. That is not a small gap — that's a completely different buying decision for most people.
    So what did Brunner actually trade to get there?

    What you're giving up:

    • Force output drops from 6.8 Newton metres peak down to 2.2 Newton metres peak — a meaningful reduction
    • Pitch and roll travel goes from 20.5 degrees either way down to about 16 degrees — noticeable but still workable
    • No RJ connector — this is USB only, and that matters more than you'd think
    • No stick included — factor that into your cost comparison

    What you're gaining:

    • Direct drive motor — which is significant
    • 16 bits of resolution
    • A power off switch — we never had that before on a Brunner and it's genuinely welcome
    • A considerably more compact footprint
    • And honestly what I'd describe as a better fit and finish than the bigger brother

    That last point genuinely surprised me. If you've ever handled Fanatec sim racing gear - specifically their shifter - you'll immediately know what I mean when I say this thing feels super premium in the hand. It's refined and it does not feel like a budget step down. For $460 the build quality is outstanding.

    Mounting — Sort This Out Before It Arrives

    One thing to be very direct about - the Brunner FFB-G Joystick shipped without any mounting solution. No suction cups, no bracket, nothing. Just four small rubber feet on the bottom. If you pre-order this you need to sort out how you're going to mount it before it arrives, because it will move around on a desk otherwise.

    The good news is that the mounting holes on the bottom use a Thrustmaster-compatible mounting pattern - the same pattern you'll find on existing Brunner stick brackets and Next Level Racing flight simulator rigs. So if you're already running a Thrustmaster-compatible setup you should be able to mount this directly. Brunner have also confirmed that additional feet and suction cup style options will be available through their store.
    A Moza mounting bracket also works as a happy accident - the mounting holes line up perfectly.

    Brunner FFB-G Joystick vs Moza AB6 - How Do They Compare?

    This is the question everyone is going to ask given the similar price range, so here's the honest breakdown:
    Size: The Moza AB6 base is around 20-25% larger than the Brunner FFB-G Joystick. The Moza is not really a desktop unit - the Brunner absolutely is. For desk setups the Brunner wins on form factor.

    Power: 

    The Moza does feel slightly stronger in raw force output but the gap is less than the Newton metre figures suggest. More importantly the Brunner FFB-G Joystick is on a completely different level when it comes to smoothness and effect delivery. No cogging, clean, super precise.
    Compatibility: Both bases accept Moza, Thrustmaster, and Virpil sticks.
    Stick included: The Moza AB6 comes with a stick. The Brunner FFB-G Joystick does not — factor that into your cost comparison.

    Base buttons: 

    The Moza has a few handy buttons on the base itself. The Brunner does not.

    Build quality: 

    The Brunner far exceeds the Moza. It's not close.

    Best suited for: 

    GA aircraft and Airbus flying in MSFS and X-Plane. If your main platform is DCS or you primarily fly warbirds, the 2.2 Newton metre output may not give you enough resistance and weight. For those users — hold off until full reviews with the new software are live.

    Brunner FFB-G Rudders - Price and What's Changed

    The Brunner FFB-G Rudder Pedals come in at $799 USD. The original CLS-E Mark II Rudders, which I reviewed previously, are $1,900. That's over $1,100 in difference.

    What's changed:

    • Smaller and more compact than the originals
    • Linear force output drops from 220 Newtons down to 190 Newtons — on paper not a dramatic reduction, and in feel they feel very similar in character from memory
    • Still no load cell brakes — which was something I was hoping to see at this new price point
    • Pedals feel like an improvement over the originals — stiffer and more solid underfoot

    What's stayed the same:

    The full Brunner effect suite is all here - engine vibrations, turbulence, airspeed load, prop wash, all of it. Nothing has been stripped back.

    The Software Situation - Why This Is Not a Review

    Here's the thing that ties all of this together. Both the Brunner FFB-G Joystick and the Brunner FFB-G Rudders are USB only - no RJ connectors. Previously running multiple Brunner products simultaneously required daisy chaining them through the yoke. That's no longer how this works. Everything connects directly to the PC via USB.

    The problem is that the old CLS2Sim software doesn't support that configuration for more than one product at a time. That's exactly why SimUX exists.

    From what's been seen of the new interface the UI improvements are substantial - a completely different experience to the old software. The same core effects are all there but with a much more intuitive layout and more understandable language. Effects like resistance versus airspeed, resistance versus deflection curves, natural weight settings, and engine vibrations are all present. But the deep functionality is now more in the backend, which just allows for a better user experience without losing any capability.

    One example of what SimUX can do - imagine flying a Cessna 172 and at certain RPM ranges you get some resonance through the airframe. In SimUX you can dial that in using an adjustable curve editor, matching the resonance character of that specific aircraft. That's a level of detail that gets flight simmers genuinely excited.
    But again — none of that has been tested yet.

    Who Is the Brunner FFB-G Joystick For?

    Consider it if:

    • You fly GA aircraft or Airbus in MSFS or X-Plane and want Brunner quality at an accessible price
    • You want a proper desktop force feedback base with genuine Brunner smoothness and effect delivery
    • You already have a Thrustmaster or Virpil stick you want to run on a better base
    • Build quality and precision matter more to you than raw force output

    Hold off if:

    • DCS is your main platform - there are better options for that use case
    • You primarily fly warbirds - the 2.2 Newton metre output likely won't satisfy you
    • You want to wait for full reviews with the SimUX software live - which is the sensible call

    Who Is the Brunner FFB-G Rudder for?

    Consider it if:

    You want force feedback rudders at a price point that's finally within reach
    You fly GA or commercial aircraft and want that airspeed-dependent feel
    You're already running or planning a Brunner joystick or yoke setup

    Hold off if:

    Load cell brakes are important to you - they're still not here
    You want to wait for the full SimUX-powered review - again, the sensible approach

    Final Verdict

    The Brunner FFB-G Joystick and Brunner FFB-G Rudders are not compromised budget products. They feel like Brunner chose carefully what to reduce and what to keep. The hallmark Brunner smoothness, the refined feel, and the quality are all present in both units. The price drops are substantial enough to open Brunner up to a genuinely wider audience for the first time.

    The one thing standing between these products and a full recommendation right now is the software. If SimUX lands well - and from what's been seen of the interface it looks promising - these are going to be very popular products. Full reviews of both are coming the moment the final software is available.

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